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that limit on monday night. >> i wouldn't disagree but look at the facts. we did have a republican controlled congress that passed a bill. if reid didn't like the bill, let it go for debate. let his senate vote it down and say no, we're not going to accept these conditions. >> let me ask you this, then. interesting question. president obama gets his own deal, sends it over to the republicans, they have the same dilemma. >> well, they may. but i think you would at least see a fair dee beat. look, i think the average american realizes we have to cut spending. you know the numbers. >> craig, i have to ask you -- i have to stop you. i don't think they do. we ran a package yesterday, we sent the producer out on the street, showed people how much more they would pay in taxes after we go offer the fiscal cliff and they were like wow, i had no idea. where were you november 6 when you a chance to vote against doing that? i don't think the average american understands. >> they were listening to pimp with a limp and david letterman, a nice guy who knows nothing about economics. social security, defense,
screwed by congress not being able to do their job. >> erick, want to play something that charles said last night and got reaction from you. >> he's been using this -- and i must say with great skill and ruthless skill and success to fracture and basically shatter the republican opposition and his objective at the beginning was to to create an internal civil war and he's done that. >> do you think the president is responsible for creating a civil war in the republican party? sorry, erick. >> i think to a degree he is although i think john boehner has more on that having cut the deal to raise taxes on $1 million or more. the republicans have had to hold this line. they would have opened them up to bigger fractures. yes, to a certain degree i think charles is right. >> the president won by winning re-election. that's what happened. he won. >> that does tend to happen after you lose a presidential election. yes. >> let me get you both to this. this is probably the last time i'll talk to you between now and 2013. so i need you to say -- you cannot say the president or mitt romney in the an
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